THE DIALECTIC IN LUKE 11: 14-27

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The Dialectic In Luke 11: 14-27 Bernard Pyron

The Dialectic As Used In Luke 11: 14-27

The absolute truth of the word of God, present as Jesus Christ, who
has the power to cast out demons, and more, is the thesis in this
Scripture. In Luke 11: 4 Jesus "...was casting out a devil, and it
was dumb. And it came to pass, when the
devil was gone out, the dumb spake: and the people wondered."

Then comes the antithesis, the opposition to the thesis that Jesus
Christ present in the form of human flesh, is God with all of God's
power. In Luke 11: 17-19
Jesus knew the thoughts of the Pharisees who accused him of casting
out devils through
the power of Beelzebub. In Matthew 12: 22-24 when Christ had cast
out a devil
that caused the victim to be blind and dumb, the Pharisees said "This
fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the
devils." And in Mark 3: 11-22 when Christ had driven devils out of
people the scribes said in verse 22 "He hath Beelzebub, and by the
prince of the devils casteth he out devils."

Now there is a battle started between the thesis and the antithesis,
between
Jesus Christ as God having the power to cast out demons and restore
the man's speech, and the claim of the Scribes and Pharisees that
Jesus
was casting out demons through the power of Satan.

The clash of opposites between the thesis - Jesus Christ
as God having power to cast out demons - creates
pressure to begin a dialogue between the parties
supporting the thesis and the parties supporting the antithesis. The
antithesis, that Jesus Christ is empowered by Satan, is blasphemy of
the Holy Spirit (Matthew 12: 31-32, Mark 3: 29, Luke 12: 10)..
Someone in the group
tries to start the dialogue to reconcile these two opposing positions,
to arrive at a synthesis.

The synthesis comes in Luke 11: 27, when a woman in the group said
"Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast
sucked."
The Pharisees and the followers of Jesus could have agreed with this
synthesis which diverts attention away from Jesus Christ as God who
is able to
cast out demon spirits, to Mary, the mother of Jesus after the flesh.

One dictionary definition of the dialectic is from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic

"In classical philosophy, dialectic (Greek: äéáëåêôéêÞ) is an
exchange of propositions (theses) and counter-propositions
(antitheses) resulting in a synthesis of the opposing assertions, or
at least a qualitative transformation in the direction of the
dialogue."

Another definition of the dialectic is from:
http://m-w.com/dictionary/dialectic

"from Greek dialektike, from feminine of dialektikos of conversation,
from dialektos...
discussion and reasoning by dialogue as a method of intellectual
investigation..."

On the other hand, the didactic method of teaching is defined as: :
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Didactic

Didactic: "from Greek didaktikos, skillful in teaching, from
didaktos, taught, from didaskein, didak-, to teach, educate"

The didactic method of teaching is generally a monologue in writing or
in speech presenting
statements as being true. Its the traditional method of
classroom and textbook teaching. In teaching the Bible,
the didactic is a way of presenting "thus saith the Lord,"
which is the word of a sovereign God, as absolute truth in its
entirety. However, a false Christian
teacher will often claim to be teaching the true word of
God when in fact he or she is teaching a false man-made theology. So,
we have to discern the purpose of the
teaching, to know whether its purpose is to present the word
of God or some false theory of men. And the teacher of
false doctrine can himself be deceived and not fully know
he is teaching false doctrine. We have to examine what he is saying in
using the traditional preaching method to see if his presentation is
true to Scripture or not.

John Hagee is a good example of a Christian preacher who
appears to use a form of traditional didactic preaching in his
sermons. But when engaging in dialogue with others Hagee might
sometimes use forms of the dialectic.

First of all, the dialectic is usually found in conversations
between people, as in the conversation between Jesus Christ and the
Pharisees and Jews in Luke 11: 14-27.
We are given something close to a verbatim account of
what was said in that dialogue involving the casting out of
a demon from a man who could not speak. For this reason,
we can use Luke 11: 14-27 as a clear example of the dialectic.

Forms of the dialectic have been used for decades to bring
about attitude and belief change in groups within the larger
society. The dialectic has been developed by social psychologists,
educators and others into an effective method of change. But we do
not often have verbatim
accounts of what actually goes on in these small face to face groups
controlled by what is called a "facilitator." If we make assumptions
about what is said in the dialectic process in groups without having
such
a verbatim record, or a summary of such a record, we may create
misunderstandings of what the method of the dialectic is. For
different
group leaders may use different forms of the dialectic.

And, again, as with the didactic method of teaching, we have to
discern what is the purpose of the use of the dialectic of the
person who is
running the group. Is the group leader trying to tear
down absolute truth and absolute morality? Is the
group leader's purpose to replace truth and morality
with opinions, feelings, personal relationships and group
consensus?

In the exposure of the dialectic by Dean Gotcher, he
focuses upon change agents in society whose purpose
has been to replace belief in absolute truths and in
following absolute morals with group conformity, group
consensus, opinions, feelings and relationships.

Here is what Gotcher says on:

http://www.authorityresearch.com/IAR%20Dean%20Gotcher%20paper.htm

"It depends on an attitude of compromise
by all participants on a general social issue producing tolerance
toward ambiguity. It seeks a collaborative effort in overcoming
differences in an effort to find agreement on personal-social
relationship needs (group consensus). It regards the resolution of
personal-social relationship needs through the use of human-reasoning
skills, or HOTS, as most important. It helps in determining what is
the "best" or "most rational" solution to personal-social relationship
needs. This does not mean that the solution agreed upon should be
"fact" or "truth" (absolute), only that it is acceptable to all as a
possible solution that could or should be tried relative feelings
toward ambiguous facts."

A change agent can often make better use of the dialectic
as found in Luke 11 when there is a state of mental confusion in many
members of a small group. In addition,
the group leader or a group member can create a condition
of stress, confusion and opposition by stating a startlingly
opposed antithesis to a thesis. This is what the Scribes and
Pharisees did in Luke 11: 18 (stated overtly in Matthew 12: 24). They
stated a radically opposing statement to the thesis, that Christ did
in fact cast out
a demon from the previously dumb man. Their antithesis was that Jesus
Christ was using the spiritual power of the
devil in casting out demons. The purpose of the Scribes and
Pharisees was to convince the Jews that Jesus Christ was
not God, and was not making use of God's great power in
his miracles. In fact, in Mark 3: 28-30, Christ explains
that the Scribes and Pharisees saying he had Beelzebub
is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and in verse 30 Jesus
adds "Because they say, he hath an unclean spirit." The Scribe or
Pharisee who so blasphemed the Holy Spirit is said to himself have a
demon.

Stating a radically opposing antithesis can set up stress
and tension in a group in which most members want to be
accepted by the others. This stress, confusion, ambiguity
and tension creates a situation such that many members
will accept a compromise to resolve the tension.

The use of the dialectic by change agents whose purpose
is to overthrow absolute truth and absolute morality is a deceptive
method. Gotcher says "Diaprax survives today because of its ability
to stay hidden behind the activities of the moment. The facilitator
controls the agenda—environment—and thereby controls the direction all
questions will be taking. The facilitator's ability to control group
feelings gives him the ability to shape the definition each person in
the group gives for his or her position. What is lost in the whole
scheme of things is that someone is always influencing the definitions
we give for our position and that apart from God and His Word, all
positions are subject to change. There is only a skewing of positions,
shaped by our desire to gain or retain relationship with others."

Gotcher uses the term "diaprax" to describe the dialectic
process.

He goes on to say that "Consensus: means with sensation, with
feelings, as in "we all feel good about the decision." Group feeling
(mankind, human experience) now decides what is right and what is
wrong. Consensus is the unanimous approval of man, the unanimous
rejection of God and His Law, i.e. God's Law is rejected as the
standard for personal and social behavior."

The dialectic is used in Christian seminaries and in some
churches. For example, on http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/04/3-
purpose.htm


Under the Purpose-Driven Process Rick Warren says ""The importance of
helping members develop friendships within your church cannot be
overemphasized. Relationships are the glue that holds a church
together."

".... I'm confident the purpose-driven process can work in other
churches where the pace of growth is more reasonable....Saddleback...
grew large by using the purpose-driven process.... Healthy churches
are built on a process, not on personalities." Rick Warren

"Today's facilitated small groups or teams are not like the old Bible
studies many of us attended years ago. Back then, we discussed the
Bible and its wonderful truths; now people dialogue until they reach
an emotional form of unity based on "empathy" for diverse views and
values. Dr. Robert Klench gave an excellent description of this
process in his article, "What's Wrong with the 21st Century Church?"

The author of this web site says "Briefly, the Hegelian dialectic
process works like this: a diverse group of people (in the church,
this is a mixture of believers (thesis) and unbelievers (antithesis),
gather in a facilitated meeting (with a trained
facilitator/teacher/group leader/change agent), using group dynamics
(peer pressure), to discuss a social issue (or dialogue the Word of
God), and reach a pre-determined outcome (consensus, compromise, or
synthesis).

"When the Word of God is dialogued (as opposed to being taught
didactically) between believers and unbelievers... and consensus is
reached – agreement that all are comfortable with – then the message
of God's Word has been watered down ever so slightly, and the
participants have been conditioned to accept (and even celebrate)
their compromise (synthesis). The new synthesis becomes the starting
point (thesis) for the next meeting, and the process of continual
change (innovation) continues.

"The fear of alienation from the group is the pressure that prevents
an individual from standing firm for the truth of the Word of God, and
such a one usually remains silent (self-editing). The fear of man
(rejection) overrides the fear of God. The end result is a "paradigm
shift" in how one processes factual information."

In the past, God's unchanging Word was the ultimate test of right and
wrong and our goal was knowing God's will and aligning our thoughts to
His truth. Now the goal is to bond diverse people into a "family" that
must "respect" all kinds of Biblical interpretations and contrary
opinions—even when conclusions clash with the Bible. The old
guidelines for discussion were based on God's call for agapeo love,
kindness, patience and scriptural integrity. Today's ground rules are
based on humanistic psychology and manipulative guidelines for social
transformation, "relational vitality," emotional unity and collective
synergy."

Yet when we apply the concepts of the dialectic versus
the didactic to sermons by an apostate preacher like John Hagee, we
can run into definition problems. In his sermons
on TV and in person at his huge Cornerstone church in San Antonio,
Hagee monologues. He dialogues in media interviews, but in
his sermons he is not engaging in a conversation with others. In
addition, those who have heard him preach say he
is a powerful preacher and that he preaches as though
what he is saying is absolute truth.

I spent some time on search engines looking for online
audios of Hagee's recent sermons, at least during the past year, after
he formed Christians United For Israel. I did
not find any. What I did find archived was for sale. Hagee they say
is a millionaire and sometimes preaches
prosperity doctrine.

But lets assume that Hagee's sermons are didactic in nature, even
though what he is saying is false.
So to avoid misunderstandings about definitions of the didactic and of
the dialectic, lets define both as
methods.

Lets make our discernment of the purpose or intent of
the writer or speaker separate from the methods of teaching, either
the didactic or the dialectic. A purpose
is not a method. A method is something that is carried
out to realize a purpose.

Then, we do not make the dialectic equal always to falsehood. No do
we always define the didactic as
truth. Truth or falsehood depends upon the purpose of the speaker
using the didactic or the dialectic. The dialectic in the hands of a
change agent whose
purpose is to lead group members away from absolute Biblical truth or
other truth
and away from Biblical morality becomes evil. And what appears to be
a
didactic method of presenting the Bible by a false teacher whose
purpose is to
teach the interpretations of a man-made theology rather than "thus
saith the Lord"
is also evil.

In Luke 11 the purpose of the Scribes and Pharisees was
to convince the Jews that Jesus Christ was not God and that he did not
cast out demons in the power of the Holy Spirit or God the Father.
Therefore, their antithesis
was false and inspired by the devil. The used the method
of the dialectic in conversation to try to carry out their purpose.

John Hagee appears to use a method mostly identical to
traditional preaching, that is, the didactic, to present his
interpretations of Scripture. But his purpose is to present
a set of false interpretations of Scripture, that all physical Israel
is God's chosen people, and that Christians
must uphold all Jews as God's chosen people and view ourselves as
having some kind of lesser position in Christ.
There are several other false interpretations Hagee probably
preaches which are additional doctrines coming out of
dispensationalist
theology, such as the pre-tribulation rapture, or that
the Old Testament promises a kingdom to the unsaved Jews in the end
time.
Hagee's war mongering and apparent belief that
helping to start World War III in the Middle East will hasten
the dispensaationalist rapture are also problems.

The dialectic has been used by change agents whose
purpose is to destroy absolute truth and morality, which
is necessary for a totalitarian government and society
to become fully established with the consent of most people.

But the dialectic in small face to face groups could be
used with the purpose of moving the majority of the group
away from lies most people in society have now accepted.

You can use the dialectic and dialogue in a group setting to
move people away from conventional and traditional morality and truth.

Or, you can use the dialectic same method to move the group away from
what is
essentially a lie. For example, in a small group a facilitator could
start from
the thesis that the destruction of the Two Towers and Building No 7
of the
World Trade Center was the work only of Islamic terrorists under
Osama, and that Western Intelligence agencies had no control over that
operation. This "thesis"
does not fit the facts. The facilitator could then state the
"antithesis," an extreme
opposite of the thesis that 911 was the work only of Osama and his
crew. The antithesis might be that the CIA with help maybe from the
Mossad and British Intelligence carried out the entire operation. A
compromise, or
synthesis, might be arrived at in the group by getting them to agree
with the facts
that the three buildings came down in the way a building comes down
from
highly skilled controlled demolition and that it is unlikely that it
just happened that
on the exact same day, September 11, 2001, the White House was
running with
cooperation from the Air Force drills dealing with terrorists flying
airplanes into
buildings which confused everyone who might have normally sent jet
fighters to
shoot down the hi-jacked airliners."

A Christian should never use the dialectic in this way
because it is a deceptive procedure for changing people's beliefs. But
the dialectic could be used for the purpose
of moving people away from lies.

Bernard

 

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