DISPENSATIONALISM: CHURCH IN OT PROPHECY?

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Dispensationalism: Church In OT Prophecy? Bernard Pyron

Dispensationalism has had a large influence upon American
Christianity for about a hundred years. It has an influence on
the interpretations of Scripture by believers who do not think
of themselves as being dispensationalists, or even know exactly
what this theology says.

If you come across someone who opposes what you say about
the Bible based upon Remnant Teachings of the Christian Media
Network and cmnfolks, this opposition will most likely come out
of dispensationalism. Its true that people in the Reformed camp
will sometimes disagree strongly with our interpretations of end time
prophecy, but they are not as numerous as dispensationalists.

There are a number of teachings by the dispensationalists
and many of these are not brought up when considering what this
theology is all about.

Here is a list of dispensationalist teachings I pulled out of a
longer list, from:

http://www.fpcjackson.org/resources/apologetics/Covenant%20Theology%20&%20Justif\
ication/Ligons_covtheology/09.htm


Dispensationalism

May be Arminian or modified Calvinist. Almost never 5-point Calvinist.

Stresses literal interpretation of the Bible.

Israel always means only the literal, physical descendants of Jacob.

Israel of God in Galatians 6:16 means physical Israel alone.

God has two peoples with two separate destinies: Israel (earthly) and
the Church (heavenly).

The Church was not prophesied as such in the O.T. but was a hidden
mystery until the N.T.

All O.T. prophecies for Israel, are for literal Israel, not the Church.

God's main purpose in history is literal Israel.

The Church is a parenthesis in God's program for the ages.

The main heir to Abraham's covenant was Isaac and literal Israel.

Israel was rash to accept the Covenant at Mt. Sinai.

The New Covenant of Jeremiah. 31:31- 34 is only for literal Israel
and is not the New Covenant of Luke 22:20

Some Dispensationalists have said that O.T. sinners were saved by works.

Most Dispensationalists teach that men in the O.T. were saved by
faith in a revelation peculiar to their Dispensation, but this did not
include faith in the Messiah as their sin-bearer.

The O.T. sacrifices were not recognized as the Gospel or types of
the Messiah as sin-bearer, but only seen as such in retrospect.

The Holy Spirit indwells only believers in the Dispensation of
Grace, not O.T. and not after the Rapture.

Jesus made an offer of the literal Kingdom to Israel; since Israel
rejected it, it is postponed.

O.T. believers were not 'in Christ,' nor part of the Body or Bride
of Christ.

The Law has been abolished.

O.T. laws are no longer in effect unless repeated in the N.T.

The O.T. animal sacrifices will be restored in the Millennium.

David will sit on the Millennial throne in Jerusalem.

In addition, dispensationalists tend to present the broad way to
salvation. See Matthew 7: 13-16, 21-23.

Dispensationalists do not seem to differentiate between
apostate or physical Israel and the Remnant of Israel who were
faithful to God. This mistake has led into the Christian
Zionism of CUFI under John Hagee, which glorifies the nation
of Israel and rejects the identify of Christians in Christ.

Had the dispensationalists separated out the Remnant of Israel,
which was a small group of the faithful, from the large number of
Jews who were not faithful, they might not have come to the
false teachings that God has two distinct peoples he deals with,
the Jews and the Church, or that there can be no application of
Old Testament prophecy applied to Christ's followers, the Church.

Dispensationalism is a man-made theology which has become a tradition
of men (Matthew 15: 6, Mark 7: 13). It is another gospel.

In science a theory must be stated as working hypotheses which
can be tested against data in experiments. How well a working
hypothesis fits the data is often referred to as the validity
of that hypothesis. Many of the several teachings of
dispensationalism do not work very well when tested by the "data"
of Scripture without resort to the slippery machinations of
interpretation offered by dispensationalists and their followers in an
effort to make Scripture appear to fit their theology.
Dispensationalism does not have very high "validity," and in cases
where the theology contradicts New Testament interpretations of Old
Testament verses, the dispensationals are clearly guilty of
interpretation of Scripture by theology rather than by Scripture.

I want to focus on just one teachings of dispensationalism, that
we cannot interpret Old testament prophecy as applying to the Christian Church.

Classical dispensationalist theologians taught that the Old
Testament prophets knew nothing about the Church which came
into being at Pentecost. I think that Progressive Dispensationalists
have mostly given up this claim, but I am interested in
the older dispensationalist claim that no prophecy in the Old Testament
can be applied to the establishment of the Church at Pentecost.

The older or classical dispensationalists include John Nelson Darby
(1800-1882), C.I. Scofield
(1843-1921), Lewis Sperry Chafer, Charles Ryrie, Dwight Pentecost and
John Walvoord. There are younger dispensationalists though, like
John Hagee (born 1940 I think), who still follow classical
dispensationalism and Hagee is following an extreme version of the
theology.

When New Testament writers such as Peter, Christ himself in Matthew or
Paul acknowledge
that an Old Testament prophecy on something clearly characteristic
of Christ's followers after Pentecost was fulfilled, the classical
dispensationalists are faced with a dilemma. For example, Peter says in
Acts 2: 16 that Joel 2: 28-32 was fulfilled in the outpouring of the
Holy Spirit at Pentecost, a dispensationalist might say that Joel
is talking about the locust plague and that Peter did not really mean
that the prophecy of Joel 2: 28 was fulfilled. But this does not
accurately follow what Joel 2: 28 and texts surrounding it are saying,
and might suggest an inability to parse the statements made in Joel.

In Luke 4: 17-21 Jesus quoted Isaiah 61: 1-2 and then said "This day
is this scripture fulfilled in your ears." he left out "the day of
vengeance of our God..." in Isaiah 61: 2, but he did say that
Isaiah 61 : 1-2 in predicting specific functions of his ministry, which
was to extend into the ministry of his Apostles in the period
following Pentecost, was fulfilled. Again, the classical
dispensationalists would not want to accept this statement by Christ
that an Old Testament prophecy about the ministry of Christ and his
Apostles was fulfilled. And in squirming around in their
interpretation of Luke 4: 17-21 the dispensationalists may in effect
admit that they are using man-made theology to interpret Scripture
rather than using Scripture to interpret Scripture.

There are other Old Testament prophecies dealing with some aspect
of the ministry of Christ and of his apostles such as Psalm 118: 22-23
about Christ as the corner stone and especially Isaiah 28: 16-17 on
Christ being the chief corner stone
in Zion,
the reference to the plumb line of Amos 7: 7-8, and the sweeping away
of the refuge of lies of false prophets that are said to be
fulfilled in the New Testament. In Matthew 21: 42-43 Jesus says "Did
you never read in the Scriptures, The stone which the builders
rejected, The same is become the head of the corner: this is the
Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Therefore say I under
you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof."

Paul uses the Old Testament prophecy of Christ as the chief corner
stone of what was to become the New Testament Body of Christ in
Romans 9: 32-33 where he says "Wherefore? Because they sought it not
by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled
at that stumbling stone. As it is written, Behold I lay in Sion a
stumblingstone and rock of offense and whosoever believeth on him
shall not be ashamed."

Then I Peter 2: 5-9 uses Christ as the stone of stumbling in
saying "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an
holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God
by Jesus Christ.
6. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in
Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on
him shall not be confounded.
7. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them
which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the
same is made the head of the corner,
8. And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them
which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were
appointed.
9. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy
nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of
him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:"

The Old Testament prophecy of Jesus Christ as the chief corner stone
(Psalm 118: 22-23; Isaiah 28: 16-17)
became the stone of stumbling for the majority of physical Israel,
the Jews, but he became the corner stone of faith for both Gentiles
and Jews who accepted him.

CUFI, Christians United For Israel, and their leader John Hagee,
might like to ignore I Peter 2: 9, saying that Christians, not
unsaved members of physical Israel, are the chosen generation, a holy
nation and a royal priesthood. Dispensationalists might try to claim
that Peter was only talking about Jews who accepted Christ as being
a chosen generation, but this contradicts what Peter testified in
Acts 15: 7-12 that God gave Gentiles the Holy Spirit and put no
difference between Christian Gentiles and Christian Jews.

Peter in Acts 10: 43 says "To him give all the prophets witness, that
through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission
of sins."

Peter here states a very important part of the ministry of Christ
which he gave over to his Apostles, that whoever believes on Christ
will have his sins forgiven. Do we find a prophecy in the Old
Testament saying that Christ will take away the sins of his people?

Isaiah 53: 11 says "...by his knowledge shall my righteous servant
justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities."

Jeremiah 31: 34 says "And they shall teach no more every man his
neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they
shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,
saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember
their sin no more."

Daniel 9: 24 says "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and
upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of
sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in
everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
to anoint the most Holy." The next verse identifies the one
who will make reconciliation for iniquity; it is Messiah the Prince.

Micah 7: 18 says "Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth
iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his
heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth
in mercy." The remnant of his heritage is the Remnant of Israel, or
spiritual Israel, all those saved by Christ in all ages.

Zechariah 13: 1: "In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the
house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for
uncleanness."

With their consistent literal interpretation the classical
dispensationalists would try to wiggle out of Zechariah 13: 1 by saying
that the house of David is physical Israel, the Jews, and that
Jerusalem refers to the physical-literal city of Jerusalem. No,,
Zechariah 13: 1 is saying that the house of David is Jesus Christ
and is using "Jerusalem" metaphorically, that is, Jerusalem is
spiritual Jerusalem.

Malachi 4: 2 says "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of
righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth,
and grow up as calves of the stall."

The Sun of righteousness again is Christ and his healing includes
forgiveness for sin.

Paul in Romans 15:12 quotes Isaiah 11: 10 which says "And in that day
there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the
people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be
glorious."

I count sixteen verses in the Old Testament which prophesy that
Gentiles will become part of God's elect, that is, of spiritual
Israel. Isaiah 11: 10 is just one of these verses.

Isaiah 42: 6 says "I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and
will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant
of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;"

Spiritual Israel, under Christ, is said here to become a light of the
Gentiles.

Isaiah 49: 6 says "And he said, It is a light thing that thou
shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to
restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to
the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the
earth."

Spiritual Israel is not only to become a light to the Gentiles
but is to be the Lord's way of salvation "unto the end of the earth."

Then Isaiah 54; 3 says "For thou shalt break forth on the right hand
and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the
desolate cities to be inhabited."

Isaiah 60: 3 says "And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings
to the brightness of thy rising."

Isaiah 61: 9 says "And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles,
and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall
acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed."

Isaiah 62: 1-3, 11-12 For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and
for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof
go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that
burneth.
2. And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy
glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the
LORD shall name.
3. Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a
royal diadem in the hand of thy God... . Behold, the LORD hath
proclaimed unto the end of the world, Say ye to the daughter of Zion,
Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him, and his
work before him.
12. And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the
LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken."

Spiritual Israel in Isaiah 62 is to be called by a new name. Could
this be Christians?

Isaiah 66: 12 says " For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend
peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a
flowing stream: then shall ye suck, ye shall be borne upon her sides,
and be dandled upon her knees."

Jeremiah 4: 2 says "And thou shalt swear, The LORD liveth, in truth,
in judgment, and in righteousness; and the nations shall bless
themselves in him, and in him shall they glory."

The nations, or many different peoples, are to bless themselves in
the Lord. This, and other texts quoted above, is beginning to sound
like bringing the Gentiles into spiritual is much more important
for the Old Testament prophets than admitting a few Gentiles to
Israel now and then. It sounds like a whole bunch of Gentiles are
scheduled to come into spiritual Israel.

How did the classical dispensationalists miss this in the Old
Testament? Maybe they have just ignored it and hoped their slippery
reasoning would convince their deceived followers that "Thew Old
Testament prophets knew nothing of the coming of the Church."

Jeremiah 16: 19 says "O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my
refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee
from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have
inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit."

Jeremiah 16: 19 adds that in coming to Christ and into spiritual
Israel, the Gentiles will repent from the lies their fathers
inherited, which could be both pagan religious lies and lies
of false Christian prophets.

Daniel 7: 14 then tells us that "And there was given him dominion, and
glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should
serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not
pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

"Him" is the "one like the Son of man" of verse 13. It is Christ.
In light of what the New Testament says about Christ and his
followers there can be no doubt that Daniel 7: 14 refers to
an eternal dominion of Christ and also to the period of Spiritual
Israel under Christ before he appears again.

Haggai 2: 7 says "And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all
nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the
LORD of hosts."

Zechariah 2: 11 states that "And many nations shall be joined to the
LORD in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the
midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me
unto thee."

Zechariah 8: 22 says "Yea, many people and strong nations shall come
to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD."

Malachi 1: 11 says "For from the rising of the sun even unto the
going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and
in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure
offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD
of hosts."
Bernard

 

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